The Griffin - Rebuildable Atomizer with Clear Tank - (DID Clone)
NEW: Update to the Griffin, now comes with a clear tank!
Metal tanks are also available.
New! Finally an affordable rebuildable atomizer with a tank system holding up to 3-4ml
NOTE: This is NOT ready to vape, it is pre-assembled but the mesh and coil is not, nor is the SS Mesh oxidized! You can not vape this out of the box you'll need to oxidize the mesh and wrap the coil.
Not generally for beginners unless you want to get your feet wet with an easily rebuilable atomizer. Even if you don't this is a great item to have to test liquids or get the best vape possible, easy to clean the parts or remove them entirely. This items come ready to vape so even if you have no plans to rebuild this is a nice addition to your vape collection.
Made with Stainless steel and plated Copper/Brass (not sure which yet, I will scrape one soon to find out). All parts are plated so there is no worry about copper or brass contacting your eLiquid.
Can be disassembled and put back together in minutes, very easy to clean, use and rebuild.
16mm Overall Diameter
53mm Overall Length assembled (without drip tip)
1 roll of coil (approximately one meter, may vary)
1 Sections of SS Wick (1.25"x2")
1 Nice stainless drip tip (looks and feels like stainless, but it might not be)
1 small "Gift" tin (note if you have purchased the Griffin from me previously you will see the tin is much smaller now)
1 Allen Key
Please note, as this comes in a tin and it is not really packed all that well it will rattle around a bit. I do not want to deprive you of the tin it coes in as it can come in handy to store parts for your Griffin (coming soon) Also, due to the rebuildable nature of this item, there are no refunds unless there is a defective part ie, a screw is bad or something similar. Vape quality with the included starter mesh and coil is not warrantied as it is fully customizable.
I recommend a good cleaning with water of all parts as this bosy unit comes preassembled and of course first vape doesn't mean anything as this is intended for your rebuilding pleasure not a throw away vape, so if the vape is not to your liking out of the mod, modify it. But me.. I like it as is :)
Very happy to have this on board.
Direct From Rolygate at ECF... a Warning:
Please note very carefully that rebuildable atomizer coils and wicks have known risks.
Rebuildables are for experts, not average or beginner vapers with no multimeter or knowledge of how to use a meter, or when a meter must be used, or how electronic devices work. These materials cannot safely be used by the inexperienced or those without basic knowledge of electronics.
This is because:
1. A rebuildable coil/wick MUST be tested carefully with a meter before it is used.
2. If it is not tested it may damage the device it is used on.
3. Faulty wicks/coils WILL blow electronic devices.
4. New coil/wick units must be tested and then used first on a strong basic electrical APV such as a Silver Bullet, that will not be destroyed by a short circuit.
5. No new coil/wick assembly should be used on an electronic device until known to be safe.
6. These items destroy electronic devices if faulty. This is a known issue.
7. These items have inherent risks and may go faulty at any time even if they were originally in good working order. The owner bears the cost of equipment damaged as a result.
8. RAs or RTAs must only be used on equipment that cannot be seriously damaged or harm the user. In practice this could mean an electrical device with a hot spring (fuse) or an electronic device that will not activate if there is a short-circuit (a dead short). Unfused devices or unprotected electronic devices will suffer damage when used with a faulty RA or RTA.
copied from ECF forums.
Note Click the Video tab for a video on setting up the mesh. The video is NOT mine, it is from YouTube and one of the easier methods I have seen. Watch this and then watch other YouTube vids to learn more about setting up the mesh and coil.
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Posted by jesse on 16th Apr 2013
I did not have any leaking issues with this. When I got it, I took it apart, nicely cleaned it. Setting it back up it felt secure. It might be a QC or variance issue but make sure you don't have any particles getting in between the O-rings and the tank and maybe rotate it and align it so you can see a regular 'touch' of the rings throughout the circumference.
For the top part, it did not align for me either. You will have to use some sand paper to work on it until the hole aligns with the wick.
Wick hole is on the narrow side. I did not bore it larger yet, but someday I might. Right now it works ok.
It is a bick picky with the drip tips that I own and some of my SS ones will not get in. The one that comes with the unit is ok, again.
It is not too heavy, which I like, but probably wouldn't mind if it was all stainless steel :)
For the price, I think it is a very good value.
Posted by anthony s on 4th Apr 2013
i had the same leaking problems as others have had . but i use what came with the atty and got it to stop leaking. i swapped 2 o rings around the one holding the top cap and bottom and leak free.
Posted by D on 4th Apr 2013
This is a fairly good product for the cost. The holes in the top are smaller than I thought though. 1/8 ceramic wicks will NOT fit this device (I read 1/8 fits the original DID) and 3/32 ceramic isn't worth using. I have been using this device on a Provari for a few hours now and it is working fine with no leaks. However, this device doesn't seem to work that much better than the bottom coil CE3's I have been using.
Posted by PoppaVic on 2nd Apr 2013
My Tiamat is awaiting a new Pos-Pin, and my Nova is *not* a Tiamat.
This Griffin was a *tight* assembly: I almost got out pliers. Washed all with Isopropyl, and reassembly was a cinch - once I learned the center-tube had to be merely *started*, tank added, and both ends slowly turned down.
Left spare screw out for filling, and addlscrew for ground, as well as pos.. Blew first coil or two - Vamo thinks they are 1.5-2ohm, and my MM says I am using between 4.5 and 3.4ohm right now.
I only wish the tube/base/cap were the same OD as the Nova: it would replace a Nova nicely. As is, this becomes my Tiamat-Backup.
Posted by Walter on 15th Mar 2013
Received mine yesterday was so excited only to find it leaked so bad from top and bottom that is lost a fluid in tank in less than 20 min. I took it apart cleaned it and inspected the o rings that seal the clear tube only to find they were not thick enough to seal the tank. went out to find o rings that would work so far no luck on that but I did use the Teflon tape the person wrote about below and it is working. looks like a Chinese blunder once again! Seems the last bunch that came out have too small of o rings I recommend not buying this until this is fixed unless you want to run all over town looking for a solution. Not so sure this one deserves two stars. On the good side after repairing leaks it works well.
Posted by koolhandkc on 6th Mar 2013
product came in nice tin, all parts acceptable. it appears that either the o-rings are junk, or the clear tank is too large ID. top o-ring doesn't touch the tank at all. bottom one leaks horribly. the o-rings are very thin and i believe need to be bigger in thickness. here's the fix, get a thicker o-ring from lowes or mcmaster carr...1.5mm-2mm thick, 10mm id 13-14 od. or use some "plumbers tape" on the existing ring. this item needs to be played with to work desirably. but if you are like myself and others...it is a worthwhile purchase with a little tweeking. happy vaping!
Posted by Grinch99 on 3rd Mar 2013
Rinse the unit out in cold to room temperature water. Do not use hot water on the plastic tube it may deform. You can reform it with warm water and patience. Reassemble it but before drying put some cool water in the tank to check for leaks. If it leaks try flipping the tube around and test it again. That fixed my leaking issue.
This is a great RBA, if not a bit on the tiny side so it takes a little work to get it setup right.
Be sure to make the wick 1-2 mm shorter that the center positive post otherwise the cap could touch the wick and cause your coil's resistance to go crazy. Especially if you filed it to get the air hole to lineup with the wick.
I'd recommend this unit highly, especially at this cost.
Posted by zsazsa45 on 22nd Feb 2013
I dont like the taste of ss mesh so i made a silica wick and POW, (much easier too). Good quality unit. Great taste and vapor. Not bad looking on my PV's. Holds enough to vape for a day for a moderate to heavy vaper. I like to use this unit for experimental wicks cause its ez to re-wick. Price is great for an rba tank, and spare tubes for a buck is unheard of. A great bargain!
Posted by jollygreen on 25th Dec 2012
once you get the hang of it and set up right it produces great vapor and tatse for the money right on. service as always was great thanks eric
Posted by CraigHB on 24th Dec 2012
Best performance of any atomizer I've used. Nicely made especially for the price. I have a few of them, a couple from here a couple from other sources.
I drill out the air hole to 1/16 inch (1.6mm). Be sure to line it up with the wick. Have to do that or it worn't make good vapor. The cap can be filed so it the hole lines up when tightened.
I run without the filler plug for maximum wicking speed. The juice will run out through the wick if I turn it upside down, but it's fine. I just don't turn it upside down. Otherwise, they don't leak unless there's a bad seal or a crack in the tank.
Posted by kh3ll on 22nd Dec 2012
As with all RBA you have to fiddle with the wick to get it right but once it's there it works great. I'm not experiencing any leaking and the air hole lines up great. It's not to airy of a draw, which I like. My only complaint is I can't get a different drip tip to fit snuggly, no big deal though. Excellent product.
Posted by Baktash on 4th Dec 2012
The air hole is very small. I made it larger simply by rotating a nail into it for a few minutes and it works very nice.
Posted by Unknown on 9th Nov 2012
Good service from these guys but... it's a leaker.
Posted by Doug on 28th Oct 2012
I had one already but had to try the see-thru tank. Also you get an air hole that is easy to line up with the wick.
Taste is good if slightly metallic. Throat hit can be vicious. Vapor is good though not very heavy. There is only room for a very skinny wick, no chance of filling the tank thru the wick hole.
If this is your first RBA stick with it and when you wind your coil turn the device and load and space the coils as go.
Once you have some practice upgrade to kanthal wire - I was surprised tofind that I couldn't 'set' the coil using my chef's torch, the supplied nichrome (?) wire just burns up!
Posted by Tadeus on 26th Oct 2012
received this together with the Hydra and 2 Mini Cannon stainless steel drip tips. What can I say, for this price-range it is good. I like the clear tube so the liquid level is visible. It is a cheaper made piece comparing with the Hydra also not as solid and heavy. the drip tip is a perfect match to the Hydra (not as shiny as the griffin) but the 2 drip tips I have ordered too are matching perfectly the griffin. Vapor production is excellent if the wick and coil is made well. the airy draw is according my taste. Shipping and handling was excellent. Thank you discount vapors for not overpricing your good quality products as others do....
Posted by Kevin D on 25th Oct 2012
Having used my neighbors DID and loving it I wanted to buy one but couldn't afford it. So he told me about the Phoenix or the "Chid". For the price it works great. No leaking issues... only flaws with it are that the drip tip that comes with it fits loose and the air hole doesn't line up with the wick when screwed in all the way, but I am able to unscrew the top until it does without any real issues. Great starting piece before getting into more high-end Rebuildable Tanks.
Posted by WIKKIDWURX on 25th Oct 2012
So very awesome, don't care for ss wick but it's so nice to control the vape instead of complaining about no one making a good atomizer
Posted by Unknown on 24th Oct 2012
Well I already had the stainless steel sleeved Griffin and it works great no leaking whatsoever. This one was completely different it leaks and leaks I am very unhappy with the second run of these.
Posted by Johnny B on 23rd Oct 2012
One of the best rebuildables I've gotten my hands on. And I put my hands on everything I use, from cartos to atomizers.
I had a bad screw on mine but it only set me back 2 days. I'm still trying to get a handle on making the wick, but for now it's better then any other atomizer I use.
You can't go wrong with the price, fast service and great customer care that Eric gives.
My only regret is that I can't get the ohms up enough to use on my Vmax but I'm still learning and I'm sure I'll hit on it soon enough. Well that and the fact that Eric has another rebuildable in stock and the Boss Lady says that I have enough variety. But I'm still working on getting my hands on a Hyrda. But then again I wonder what else Eric has in store for us?
I for one will continue to use Discount for any type of hardware that I need , or want, long as I can keep the Boss Lady happy.
Posted by David Coriaty from Brooklyn, NY on 23rd Oct 2012
Took 10 minutes to set up. All I can say is WOW! I'm almost embarrassed having paid 4 times as much for an odessyus that I can't get parts for. It does have an airy draw, but I fixed this with a tiny square of scotch tape over the hole and then punctured that with a push pin until I got the draw that suited my taste. I plan on buying a few more and probably give up on standard atomisers for good. Thanks Eric!
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