Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer - Clone
OK first.. the price I see these listed at elsewhere is quite a shock, there is simply no reason for this simple item to be this high. So this is a CLONE. It is not the genuine Pheonix. That said, it doesn't matter, it's the same thing. Same materials, same design (except for a small upgrade) If you want to spend between 2.5 and 5 times what this costs for a name, that's OK :)
Virtually identical to the original Pheonix atomizer with one nice improvement, a tapered cone for the top making it look a lot better.
Functionally and structurally it is the same unit made from the same materials. Please compare the pictures of this to the other pictures of the Phoenix. Completely rebuildable with any wick or coil you choose.
If you want to try your hand at wick and wire, this is a good item for your collection, it's less expensive leaving you more $$ (the pheonix goes for $19-$39) for your wick and wire. Not generally for beginners unless you want to get your feet wet with an easily rebuilable atomizer. Even if you don't this is a great item to have to test liquids or get the best vape possible, easy to clean the parts or remove them entirely.
Made with Stainless steel and plated Copper.
Can be disassembled and put back together.
510 Thereaded, will fit any 510 or eGo battery.
14mm Overall Diameter
32mm Overall Length
IMPORTANT: There has been one report of metal shavings inside a Phoenix, please open the Phoenix and check before using, shake it a bit, blow out anything you can see. I have opened many of them and not found anything but better to be cautious. Also clean the unit first before use to remove any excess machine oils or anything they may have left over on it.
I am excited to carry this because of the cost, I get to save everyone a serious amount of money. Never thought I'd like something this but I do. I test out a lot of flavors and I usually use a Vision atomizer to do it, just run under water, dry and go, but this opens up a lot of possibilities for me, now I can learn how to wick and test out my creations, I can order different coil different wick and wick types, whatever I come up with is easily attached between the two screws (you'll need an eyeglass screwdriver). I've already tried a few variants. I even pulled out a wick from one of my universal heads and tried that and it worked. I just had to remove it from the post. So while there is no way this will become my everyday device it will take the place of my atomizers for testing, plus I get to have some fun experimenting.
Note: it has a hard time with drip tips, my gyroidal fits and so does the basic metal drip tip I have but the oring gets stuck, I pushed it down all the way and it sheard a bit off the oring and now it fits great, but it no longer fits my other stuff, oh well, so be it. Please be aware that all drip tips will not fit this item, but luckilly it comes with one :) As always, if unsure, buy ONE, I do not accept multi quantity returns on new items. Vaping gear is a risk... always. That said I can't see anyone interested in this type of item not liking this.
Direct From Rolygate at ECF... a Warning:
Please note very carefully that rebuildable atomizer coils and wicks have known risks.
Rebuildables are for experts, not average or beginner vapers with no multimeter or knowledge of how to use a meter, or when a meter must be used, or how electronic devices work. These materials cannot safely be used by the inexperienced or those without basic knowledge of electronics.
This is because:
1. A rebuildable coil/wick MUST be tested carefully with a meter before it is used.
2. If it is not tested it may damage the device it is used on.
3. Faulty wicks/coils WILL blow electronic devices.
4. New coil/wick units must be tested and then used first on a strong basic electrical APV such as a Silver Bullet, that will not be destroyed by a short circuit.
5. No new coil/wick assembly should be used on an electronic device until known to be safe.
6. These items destroy electronic devices if faulty. This is a known issue.
7. These items have inherent risks and may go faulty at any time even if they were originally in good working order. The owner bears the cost of equipment damaged as a result.
8. RAs or RTAs must only be used on equipment that cannot be seriously damaged or harm the user. In practice this could mean an electrical device with a hot spring (fuse) or an electronic device that will not activate if there is a short-circuit (a dead short). Unfused devices or unprotected electronic devices will suffer damage when used with a faulty RA or RTA.
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Posted by Kerig3 on 10th May 2013
I've been using these Phoenix clones for 6 months now and they are just what I love to vape. Perfect taste and airflow for me! I'm a dedicated dripper because I love to switch flavors throughout the day, and this is very easy to do with this atty as long as I use one for "dark" juices and one for light/sweet juices. Still not perfect though; they will seep slowly if you don't screw it down tight, so that can prevent you from positioning the air hole for more vapor. Additionally the 510 connection threading doesn't necessarily allow you to easily position the coil and air hole "just right" for different mods. But even with these shortfalls this atty is by far my best vape in my 2 1/2 years of vaping! I can only guess how much money I've saved now that I don't have to buy disposable attys anymore!
Posted by aliensoul on 3rd May 2013
Very good quality materials and workmanship. However, poor design. The well for your juice is so tiny, and you must hold it upright or the juice will spill out your mouthpiece or the hole.
Posted by ben.suli on 26th Apr 2013
This little thing packs a good amount of vapor and for the price you cant go wrong. I didnt want to get it because it looks to simple and cheap to do the job but i figured for the price ill give it a go. I love it. Besides my fatty its my favorite dripping RBA. OH yeah and props on the shipping. I placed a order at 11 a.m and it was on the mail truck at 2. p.m that same day. No joke. quickest shipping from any one ever.ordered Thursday got it Saturday. really big props on the shipping.
Posted by Charles Zucker on 22nd Apr 2013
My first RBA.....I am very pleased with the performance of this devise. Service and shipping is fast. I just ordered another Phoenix.
Posted by Cullen on 19th Mar 2013
I enjoy this RBA, it was my first. I wish the airhole were easier to reposition, I wish the tank held more drops, I wish it were chrome plated, but for 8.99, I'd be a fool to complain. Bought 2 and a spare for a friend.
Posted by walter on 15th Mar 2013
Seems to do what I expect it to do sleek and well made. Holds up well under extreme use and no leaks. For the money you cant beat it.
Posted by ariel from san diego on 13th Mar 2013
i have had the phoenix clone for just about a month now and this lil $9 rba is still chiefing like a boss. i didn't expect it to last as many times i have rebuilt the coil and drilling additonal air holes in search of the perfect vape.
can't beat dv's prices and service. eric responds to all questions promptly, as busy as he is. thanks
Posted by Bill R on 10th Mar 2013
only real complaint's i have was the 510 connection was shorting out so i had to use a little plastic to keep the + from pushing to the ground where it connects to the battery and when u fully screw the top down the air hole does not line up with the coil. once i fixed the short it was awesome! easy to rebuild. lots of vapor. it holds around 4-5 drops.it is great for tasting different flavors
Posted by Mike. on 6th Mar 2013
This is my first RBA. When I got it the prebuilt coil had some hot spots so I took it out and rebuilt it. No star loss for that since that's not the fault of the atomizer, but I figured I'd bring it up ALWAYS ALWAYS check your shit with a multimeter and/or mod that can check ohms before attaching it to your PV.
Its pretty simple to put together, just make a wrap around your wick, slide the wires through the holes in the posts tighten the screws down till they catch and break off the excess wire then stuff the wick down inside. So its a great starter RBA for that reason, its simple to assemble, and it works.
Now here's what I don't like. The screws are flippin tiny and they can be taken all the way out meaning if you drop them you ain't gonna find them again. I think this would be better if there was something to catch the screw so you could loosen it up to put wires in but not allow the screw to come all the way out.
It can be kinda tricky to stuff the wick down in the reservoir, but again first time rebuilding so maybe that's just lack of skill on my part.
I think the draw is a bit on the airy side and this atty lacks a way to adjust the airflow.
If juice gets stuck on the inside of the atomizer cover it doesn't flow down the side into the reservoir well, it kinda just stays there stuck to the sides so when you take it off you risk getting juice on your fingers.
This thing hates drip tips, Seriously I only have one that fits on it, thankfully it comes with one but the one that comes with it is really cheap plastic, but it does it's job. It seems like it wants to accept 510 drip tips but its slightly too narrow for majority of drip tips.
Good things. Its solidly constructed, easy to put together, it does its job quite well, I've seen people with more experience than me rebuild these things and make just clouds of vapor with theirs, and I've gotten a few good clouds myself, it kicks the crap out of my old 510 atomizers I've been dripping in Plus the phoenix alone costs less than one of those, and rebuilding is cheaper than buying new attys as needed.
Also the center post does not have an air hole so there is no worry of juice leaking down out of the bottom onto your battery.
All in all if you're thinking of buying this, buy it. If you want a good video on how to rebuild it look up pbusardo's bulldog review it rebuilds exactly the same way as the bulldog.
Reason for 1 star loss - The screws come all the way out and are so tiny that if you drop em you can and likely will lose them forever.
Posted by ariel -san diego, ca on 18th Feb 2013
I bought my phoenix clone as an entry level starter into rba's at first like all things there was a learning curve. it's been less than a week and after 4 rebuilds I found my sweet spot. I highly recommend this low cost rba for anyone thinking about getting in custom build atty's just make sure you buy enough wire, wick, and mesh!
Posted by Unknown on 12th Feb 2013
this is a compact little unit definitely good quality had to buy a small screw driver for it to rewick but i'm still using the factory wick good for tasting juice overall i like this for the price you just can't beat it
Posted by Alex S. on 31st Jan 2013
I received this atty along with an AGA-T+ and some supplies, I was really excited about the T+ tank so I went straight to that piece first. But upon inspection of my Phoenix clone I noticed THERE WAS NO AIR HOLE DRILLED IN THE CAP! I was flabbergasted; I had never heard of it happening before, not one review ever read mentioning anything like it. Luckily I'm capable of remedying such a situation, so I got to drilling. Lemme tell ya, this cap must be the stainless segment because it was quite hard to drill through even with a high-speed cobalt alloy drill bit (made for hard metals like SS.) I have to dock one (1) star for that bit, but it's not a reflection on DV but rather the original manufacturer. Guess mine missed the drill press before being shipped out! Now that I have a hole drilled it vapes great, just like it's supposed to, and the pre-installed coil was nicer than I was expecting. All in all it was a good buy and would take the chance of no air hole again (besides, I hear a lot about folks on this site especially complaining about air hole sizes on Genesis and other RBAs, and I was able to bore mine to my own specs.)
Posted by Vape Chemist on 26th Jan 2013
I ordered these a while back when the terminals had small holes to thread the wire through. This made clean finishes quick and simple. Now they have a pan head screw to clamp down the wire only. I think it would be best to have the pan head screw AND the holes in the terminals to satisfy both groups of rebuilders. Also, you could go dual and quad coil with such a setup. Aside from that, they're great. No issues using SS Mesh and 32 gauge Kanthal wire. Great vapor, throat hit and flavor.
Posted by Unknown on 25th Jan 2013
First off, Great Service from Eric. Mine came without an airhole in it. Eric sent me another one the next day. But this little guy rocks. After buying several items direct from China, I realized it's a crap shoot, so I am sticking with DV. I love stealthy vapes and this is small. Great for dripping but also can last a half hour, just long enough for my commute. My first rebuildable and my first coil worked just fine. Works great on any battery it sits on and flavor is so intense it makes you want to eat the juice. Love it. You cant beat the price either.
Posted by 2fer on 24th Jan 2013
I use a 3.7V box mod and the Bauway 2.5 ohm is my favorite atty, with the Boge 2.5 as #2. Both seem to be increasingly hard to find. Had some trepidation about this device due to big hands and poor eyesight. Not to worry...kind of tedious, but easier than feared by using a clamp mounted magnifier, led headlamp, and fine tweezers. Excellent vape once I got rid of the original wick and went to #400 SS mesh. Almost every puff is as good as the very best from the Bauway. Interestingly, I had to wrap the wire for around 2 ohm (3 turns) to get a similar vape to the Bauway 2.5 (which typically metered at more like 2.7 to 2.9). Might be a function of different wire than Bauway uses?
Very pleased with this item and will be ordering 2 more so I can always have one ready to go if/when I pop a wire. No issue whatsoever with the draw. Would prefer a pan head type screw so I could just give the wire a turn around the screw and tighten instead of struggling to get it in the holes.
Posted by Toebe.vapes on 16th Jan 2013
Great little device, very easy to rebuild. I watched a couple of reviews on this little guy and most said the draw was to tight and they had to make the pee hole larger.. well it was to airy for me.. I'll be the first to say you can't please everyone lol I passed it along to a friend but would still highly recommend it to anyone thinking about buying it as another RBA or your first.. solid little device here. **tip** feed your leads through the device prior to stuffing your extra wick in the cup, this will save you lots of time and make the rebuild very easy.
Posted by Unknown on 31st Dec 2012
I had some frustrations with SmokTech 510 Bridgeless Atomizers burning out after a short time. I decided to go with a rebuildable, found this, and LOVE it. It produces great vapor and flavor. And it holds plenty of juice without leaking. This may be the only atomizer I'll ever need since it's easily rebuildable. I highly recommend it.
Posted by FFKAG on 13th Nov 2012
Tried several rba items from here. Don't be thrown off by the low price and simplicity, this is the best rba on this site. And it's only 8.99
I might buy 5 more
Posted by birdemup on 8th Nov 2012
Well worth it.
Out of the box it works great.
Nice vapor, nice flavor.
my first rebuildable, but the only issue for me is I
Got to go get some readers to see the small holes when
Putting on new coils.
A must buy if you like dripping or testing out flavors.
Posted by John Dearing on 8th Nov 2012
My take on the phoenix (clone) is that it's a great little rebuildable atomizer to get an idea if tinkering and rebuilding is for you. I read these reviews and people are upset that this doesn't line up or that is off and I think wow what part of the word mod don't you understand? These things are mass produced and quality control is not at its finest. This is why the price is so low. That being said it's up to the buyer to build this thing up. It's a mod meaning you can modify it to suit your needs. A little research some tools and patience and this little guy works great! I'm with Eric on this one it's great for trying out a new flavor and I got mine working so well I occasionally use it all day. If you want perfect save up and spend a lot more for top of the line. But for me I like tinkering and building so this atomizer is perfect for that. Keep em coming Eric your hard work is appreciated.
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